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  Is there proof somewhere that when a KH is sold...,

  by cawshun in

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  is there some place to prove that when a congregation donates time, work, materials, ect... to build a kh, that when it get's sold the money goes to the wts corporation and not back to the congregation that built it through donations?.

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  Ultimate Reality

  Our Hall passed a resolution based on the Society's review of the Congregation's articles of incorporation. It was resolved to change the dissolution clause so that if the Congregation is ever liquidated, the proceeds for the sale of the property automatically goes to the WTS.

  This "suggestion" was based on the WTS legal department's review. Of course, the local congregation did not retain their own counsel for legal advice in this matter.

  The Society has a form that the Elders fill out to disclose the ownership arrangements and then the Society provides their advice on the adjustments to make. This seems to be a systematic way of ensuring that all assets eventually end up in the hands of the WTS.
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  June 15 Study Watchtower now on jw.org

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  notably contains an article on "the faithful steward and it's governing body".

  only skimmed over the account , but it seems to cover a number of bases - eg.

  anointed individuals are not to think they are above "god's channel".

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  The elevation of the GB has reached new heights (along with minimizing the domestics and great crowd) in this article. The article presents new reasoning and concepts on this matter. For example, it makes a point about how only 8 individuals were responsible for writing the New Testament and links the role of the apostles to that of GB.
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  June 15 Study Watchtower now on jw.org

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  notably contains an article on "the faithful steward and it's governing body".

  only skimmed over the account , but it seems to cover a number of bases - eg.

  anointed individuals are not to think they are above "god's channel".

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  Wow. This is what many have been waiting for, but it's interesting to hear the explanation.

  Listen to the opening comments, and conflicted reasoning. This is the setup for the Governing Body to become the Servant/Steward appointed by Jesus while the "domestics" (all the other "annointed") and other sheep get lumped together.
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  PDF w/174 WBTS scans comparing lies and revisions of JW "truth"...limited time only!!!

  by middleman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello, here's a pdf that was put together comparing many of the lies within the society's publications.

  i will have the link up for a limited time and afterwards it will be available by request-send me an email and leave yours.

  this is part one (141 pages) of two (perhaps a third) in the series being made.

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  Ultimate Reality

  Thank you for a great file. Much time and effort was spent on this; a very useful addition to all our "alternative" WT Library's.
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  When was the last NWT revision released?

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone know when the last revision to the new world translation was released?.

  i seriously wonder if there are any qualified bible translators left at brooklyn or patterson.

  that is assuming that there ever were any there in the first place.. there might not be anyone qualified in the watchtower organization to make any revisions at all.. the watchtower today wants lawyers, accountants and construction engineers, not people trained in biblical languages!.

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  Yes, 1984 was the last revision. However, I have seen scans here (have not yet checked at local KH) that they have a new edition that has "technical" changes. Specifically, they have removed the brackets, so you cannot see where that have inserted words!
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  Name one thing the WTS did for you and your family!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just thinking of all the things i did for the wts (a group of old men that live in new york whom i've never seen and never will) and what they gave me in return.. .

  what i did for the wts :.

  studied the ''truth book'' for 6 months just to get baptized.

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  I learned how to reason in a circular fashion.
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  The Governing Body Channels ...

  by compound complex in

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  2. friends

  someone asked a question recently about how the gb acquires new light.

  i cannot recall the title of the thread but did find this information in my file that a fellow poster put up a while back:.

  just for reference, this is from the jan 1st 2007 watchtower - "the first resurrection now under way ?".

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  So, the 1935 identification of the Great Crowd proves they are "spirit-directed"?

  What interests me is that the quote is recent, from 2007. I would think they should distance themselves from this concept. Most of the people identified at the historic convention where the great multitude were asked to stand up by Rutherford, ARE DEAD!

  This means they were NOT part of the Great Crowd, because they did not pass through the Great Tribulation.

  Either God, one of the 24 heavenly elders, or JF Rutherford made a mistake on timing. I wonder which one?
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-22-09 WT Study (JESUS PURPOSE)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  comments you will not hear at the 02-22-09 wt study (december 15, 2008, pages 12-16)(jesus purpose).

  review comments will be in red.

  (a) why can we say that jesus is unique in his role as the only-begotten son?

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  Thanks Blondie!

  This article continues to highlight the Society's policy that Christ is the mediator for only the 144,000. Whenever I say to someone... "the Society teaches that Christ is not our mediator", they are usually shocked.

  Let's hope a few will see through this offensive and self-serving teaching.
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  Patrick McGoohan Dies aged 80

  by Caedes in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm.

  sad news, what a great actor.

  best known for the cult tv series the prisoner..

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  Sad indeed. He was more than an actor and made a valuable contribution to society.
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  So I've agreed to a Bible Study, how will I get thru it without wanting to die?

  by lola28 in

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  no joke.

  the sister who studied with me is older and she's been having a very hard time getting around out in service, i heard she was ill so i called her and this morning she came by my office and we started to talk, her kids have all moved away and she's lonely, going out in service is hard for her but she tries her best to get out there, she asked me if i would consider a study with her and i said yes.

  i miss her terribly, she's the closest thing i've had to a grandmother and i adore her, also i'd rather she be with me indoors instead of walking around house to house when her legs give her so much trouble.

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  What is so sad about this, is that the very community of JW's that she wants to bring you into is doing nothing for her -- nothing of practical value. Instead, she can only feel good about herself and ease her loneliness by spending time studying with you, and "counting her time".

  Where is the love in the spiritual paradise?